"Vince Hart" <VinnyJH@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1130529390.479939.252320@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... <SNIP>>It is just that I have> always found him [Larry Cohen] to be very transparent. It is hard for me > to imagine> him being cunning or sly.>
Vince Hart
LOL. But wasn't he the one who approved the ICA tour fees?
On 27 Oct 2005 15:30:38 -0700, chessdude2k@hotmail.com wrote:
I have just heard from sources that a tournament report for a>GrandMaster event held in August in Chicago was falsified by the>organizer/chief td in order for a player to achieve a GrandMaster norm>and FIDE caught onto it.>
Anyone have any further information on this?>
CD2K
On 28 Oct 2005 12:56:30 -0700, "Vince Hart" <VinnyJH@hotmail.com> wrote:
chessdude2k@hotmail.com wrote:>> I cannot verify myself but I heard that an organizer, Larry Cohen,>> changed the order games were played on the submitted tournament report>> so a player could get their GM norm. If he didn't change the order the>> player would not get the norm.>>
BTW - how do these norm things work? And how would changing the order>> make a difference?>
I have never heard that the order of results within a tournament makes>any difference to a GM or IM norm. It makes me wonder how many steps>your source was removed from someone with actual knowledge of the>event.>
As far as the tournament goes, the only thing I know is that it took>place.>
On the other hand, I have known Larry Cohen for many years and he>really is the last person I would expect to falsify a tournament>report. It is not so much that I know him to be particularly pure or>good (although I think he is a decent guy). It is just that I have>always found him to be very transparent. It is hard for me to imagine>him being cunning or sly. >
Vince Hart
I believe it is possible. It takes nine games to make a Grandmaster Norm. If the tournament is ten rounds, and the player has made the grandmaster norm by round nine, then the last game does not count.
BENJAMIN P FINEGOLD |6.0 |D 1|D 4|D 2|D 5|W 6|D 1|D 2|W 6|W 5|L 4
This was a double round robin. The sequence of opponents was 1 4 2 5 6 1 2 6 5 4
As you can see, the rounds in the second half of the tournament were played in a different order from the first half of the tournament. It does look suspiciously like the loss to four in the last round may have actually been played in round seven rather than round ten.
